Comments for Sliced Bread http://tsearl.edublogs.org Reflections on Learning 70:20:10 Tue, 08 Dec 2009 02:04:28 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.2 hourly 1 Comment on Well, just exactly do we want? by Mr S http://tsearl.edublogs.org/2009/11/18/well-just-exactly-do-we-want/comment-page-1/#comment-271 Mr S Tue, 08 Dec 2009 02:04:28 +0000 http://tsearl.edublogs.org/?p=330#comment-271 We bang on about "same old same old" and get deafened by the echo. Never mind I guess. Year 9 now have their "boxes of connected learning" and yet few authentically new ideas about HOW we need to change learning have emerged, yet. I'm happy the landscape is messy. I have heard more staff ask recent questions of ICT. Fear factor or embracing? I guess it really matters little, yay to the new movement! At least if teachers have concerns we'll seek solutions. Thanks for the w00t link Mr L Have a great Christmas Tomaz We bang on about “same old same old” and get deafened by the echo. Never mind I guess.
Year 9 now have their “boxes of connected learning” and yet few authentically new ideas about HOW we need to change learning have emerged, yet.

I’m happy the landscape is messy.

I have heard more staff ask recent questions of ICT.
Fear factor or embracing? I guess it really matters little, yay to the new movement!
At least if teachers have concerns we’ll seek solutions.

Thanks for the w00t link Mr L
Have a great Christmas Tomaz

]]> Comment on Well, just exactly do we want? by Tomaz Lasic http://tsearl.edublogs.org/2009/11/18/well-just-exactly-do-we-want/comment-page-1/#comment-270 Tomaz Lasic Mon, 07 Dec 2009 05:40:38 +0000 http://tsearl.edublogs.org/?p=330#comment-270 Hooray for Mr Searl ! A beauty that resonates across the Nullarbor (and further I dare say). Mate, I'm only going to offer you a link: http://patapata.sourceforge.net/WhyEducationalTechnologyHasFailedSchools.html Take care. Hooray for Mr Searl ! A beauty that resonates across the Nullarbor (and further I dare say).

Mate, I’m only going to offer you a link:
http://patapata.sourceforge.net/WhyEducationalTechnologyHasFailedSchools.html

Take care.

]]> Comment on Well, just exactly do we want? by Mr S http://tsearl.edublogs.org/2009/11/18/well-just-exactly-do-we-want/comment-page-1/#comment-269 Mr S Thu, 03 Dec 2009 22:57:25 +0000 http://tsearl.edublogs.org/?p=330#comment-269 Troy Your point "we just try to do our job" resonates. If the premise of quality student learning is our core then we should expect professionals to use whatever it takes to deliver that. Whilst high stakes summative tests remain at government behests, the excuse to avoid learning for now also remains. Governments must now provide brave leadership in assessment reform. Whilst schools pretend to offer panaceas for the ever increasing societal ills, we also get distracted from our core. Troy
Your point “we just try to do our job” resonates.

If the premise of quality student learning is our core then we should expect professionals to use whatever it takes to deliver that.

Whilst high stakes summative tests remain at government behests, the excuse to avoid learning for now also remains.

Governments must now provide brave leadership in assessment reform.

Whilst schools pretend to offer panaceas for the ever increasing societal ills, we also get distracted from our core.

]]> Comment on Well, just exactly do we want? by Mr S http://tsearl.edublogs.org/2009/11/18/well-just-exactly-do-we-want/comment-page-1/#comment-268 Mr S Thu, 03 Dec 2009 22:48:45 +0000 http://tsearl.edublogs.org/?p=330#comment-268 Ben Questioning future directions and seeking improvement through change is my learning focus. If that happens to also involve, ICt great. What we currently call school education is suffering a distinct lack of leader vision for fundamental change. Parents and students will ultimately drive change as they question why quality is distributed unevenly. "Why is that student/system/school able to access that open learning when my child can't?" Result? Alternative delivery models, much like we have had for centuries in home school models, except this time digitally enriched for personal learning. Schools, systems and politicians have a vested interest NOT to cede centralised hub control. Future learning 'ownership' will be far more in the hands of individuals and not organisations and certainly not with gatekeepers, who currently politicise ICT that will soon be cost negligible. Unfortunately this also means generational change, often in developed economies, first. Concurrently those world economies who have little to 'unlearn' from their past education models, may leap frog past as cost for them also becomes negligible and open access is the norm. Economic imperitives have driven government's latest ICT largesse, NOT education or learning. If learning was the focus then that would be the debate, not the technology. I'm sure you'll learn heaps at your first teaching appointment in the Territory. Great to have you comment on ye olde chalkies rants. Cheers Ben Ben
Questioning future directions and seeking improvement through change is my learning focus. If that happens to also involve, ICt great. What we currently call school education is suffering a distinct lack of leader vision for fundamental change.

Parents and students will ultimately drive change as they question why quality is distributed unevenly.
“Why is that student/system/school able to access that open learning when my child can’t?” Result? Alternative delivery models, much like we have had for centuries in home school models, except this time digitally enriched for personal learning.

Schools, systems and politicians have a vested interest NOT to cede centralised hub control. Future learning ‘ownership’ will be far more in the hands of individuals and not organisations and certainly not with gatekeepers, who currently politicise ICT that will soon be cost negligible.

Unfortunately this also means generational change, often in developed economies, first. Concurrently those world economies who have little to ‘unlearn’ from their past education models, may leap frog past as cost for them also becomes negligible and open access is the norm.

Economic imperitives have driven government’s latest ICT largesse, NOT education or learning. If learning was the focus then that would be the debate, not the technology.

I’m sure you’ll learn heaps at your first teaching appointment in the Territory. Great to have you comment on ye olde chalkies rants. Cheers Ben

]]> Comment on Well, just exactly do we want? by Troy http://tsearl.edublogs.org/2009/11/18/well-just-exactly-do-we-want/comment-page-1/#comment-267 Troy Tue, 01 Dec 2009 08:10:11 +0000 http://tsearl.edublogs.org/?p=330#comment-267 Wow, exactly what I have been pondering, unable to put into words. Since the slow rolling thunder of the DER devices, I've discovered that the ICT cross curriculum content of the Stage Four and Five syllabi had not been embraced in my subject area, at my school. That throws a new light on what we need to do: start preparing teachers and learners from year 7 and 8 for the possibility of a connected learning environment, one that takes a step back from the $22 000 budget for photocopying. Or shall we just throw the ICT stuff onto year 9 and, from 2010, year 10? Also I've discovered that traditional teaching in my subject area is valued by my colleagues. If you want to embrace the two forms, that is student centred, ICT, learning for understanding or teacher centred knowledge for testing, your students may suffer in state wide NAPLAN or SC results. I am a geek. A bit of a book nerd and since I started teaching 7 short years ago, a bit of a techno geek. You know the kind. Using email for students to attach assignments and to provide immediate feedback, using track changes to show students editing techniques, demanding of time in the computer lab, the teacher who books out the lab at the start of a term and doesn’t apologise, I even use basic stuff like MS Movie Maker or MS Front Page. Like hundreds of other teachers, I guess, I saw technology as another way to engage in learning. I am not an early adpoter, I just try to do my job. I want a culture of student centred learning, of exploration and interaction, where knowledge and understanding is valued, learning not testing matters, a 21st century classroom. Wow, exactly what I have been pondering, unable to put into words.
Since the slow rolling thunder of the DER devices, I’ve discovered that the ICT cross curriculum content of the Stage Four and Five syllabi had not been embraced in my subject area, at my school. That throws a new light on what we need to do: start preparing teachers and learners from year 7 and 8 for the possibility of a connected learning environment, one that takes a step back from the $22 000 budget for photocopying. Or shall we just throw the ICT stuff onto year 9 and, from 2010, year 10?
Also I’ve discovered that traditional teaching in my subject area is valued by my colleagues. If you want to embrace the two forms, that is student centred, ICT, learning for understanding or teacher centred knowledge for testing, your students may suffer in state wide NAPLAN or SC results.
I am a geek. A bit of a book nerd and since I started teaching 7 short years ago, a bit of a techno geek. You know the kind. Using email for students to attach assignments and to provide immediate feedback, using track changes to show students editing techniques, demanding of time in the computer lab, the teacher who books out the lab at the start of a term and doesn’t apologise, I even use basic stuff like MS Movie Maker or MS Front Page. Like hundreds of other teachers, I guess, I saw technology as another way to engage in learning. I am not an early adpoter, I just try to do my job.
I want a culture of student centred learning, of exploration and interaction, where knowledge and understanding is valued, learning not testing matters, a 21st century classroom.

]]> Comment on Well, just exactly do we want? by BArcher http://tsearl.edublogs.org/2009/11/18/well-just-exactly-do-we-want/comment-page-1/#comment-265 BArcher Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:58:33 +0000 http://tsearl.edublogs.org/?p=330#comment-265 Searlie, you know I've always had mad love for your work, both as a student and now as a fellow teacher. You've hit the noodle on the noggin' yet again, and this is the reason why ICT in schools is going to struggle to get off the ground. There is no question that needs answering or anything necessarily WRONG with education here in Australia. What do I want? I want to give my students the best resources possible and to help them to get the best results they can. Whether ICT is the answer or not, is irrelevant. But seeing as the government is going to give it to us, we may as well use it. Searlie, you know I’ve always had mad love for your work, both as a student and now as a fellow teacher.

You’ve hit the noodle on the noggin’ yet again, and this is the reason why ICT in schools is going to struggle to get off the ground. There is no question that needs answering or anything necessarily WRONG with education here in Australia.

What do I want? I want to give my students the best resources possible and to help them to get the best results they can. Whether ICT is the answer or not, is irrelevant. But seeing as the government is going to give it to us, we may as well use it.

]]> Comment on About by Mr S http://tsearl.edublogs.org/about/comment-page-1/#comment-257 Mr S Sun, 18 Oct 2009 03:15:34 +0000 #comment-257 Always pleased to share ideas and resources with our Kiwi cousins, hey bro? Many eduTools are over-rated and misused for improved learning,(but still fun to play with). Find a core selection of quality opensource (like voicethread, edmodo, flickr, gdocs) and become proficient in applying them for learning. cheers & thanks for dropping by Tania. Always pleased to share ideas and resources with our Kiwi cousins, hey bro?

Many eduTools are over-rated and misused for improved learning,(but still fun to play with). Find a core selection of quality opensource (like voicethread, edmodo, flickr, gdocs) and become proficient in applying them for learning.

cheers & thanks for dropping by Tania.

]]> Comment on About by Tania OMeagher http://tsearl.edublogs.org/about/comment-page-1/#comment-256 Tania OMeagher Fri, 09 Oct 2009 20:04:46 +0000 #comment-256 Thanks Tony for getting "in touch" via twitter. Have popped in here to see who you are and what you're about. And like where you're coming from. Will definitely pop in regularly because am sure I'll be able to get valuable info for my field. I'm ICT support at Nelson Central Primary School in New Zealand. Love the emerging tools, but like what you say about not rushing in under the hype etc .....even tho it's all exciting. ULearn '09 in Chch was great. Ka Kite! Thanks Tony for getting “in touch” via twitter. Have popped in here to see who you are and what you’re about. And like where you’re coming from. Will definitely pop in regularly because am sure I’ll be able to get valuable info for my field. I’m ICT support at Nelson Central Primary School in New Zealand. Love the emerging tools, but like what you say about not rushing in under the hype etc …..even tho it’s all exciting. ULearn ‘09 in Chch was great. Ka Kite!

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