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	<title>Comments on: &#8230;. pass the attitude adjuster, small size, OK?</title>
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	<description>Reflections on Learning 70:20:10</description>
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		<title>By: Mr S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim 
Yes the &quot;change&quot; challenges are many. Conversations and questioning of the staus quo (disruptive debate) will assist but the glacial pace of reform will become the real digital divide. catching up from that WILL be nigh impossible. 

My daily work senses the current overwhelming frustration DET teachers have with the ICT already on the table, let alone the impending changes. Ubiquity may then allow us to force attitudinal change, lets hope so.

2009 to 2011? Watershed years indeed.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim<br />
Yes the &#8220;change&#8221; challenges are many. Conversations and questioning of the staus quo (disruptive debate) will assist but the glacial pace of reform will become the real digital divide. catching up from that WILL be nigh impossible. </p>
<p>My daily work senses the current overwhelming frustration DET teachers have with the ICT already on the table, let alone the impending changes. Ubiquity may then allow us to force attitudinal change, lets hope so.</p>
<p>2009 to 2011? Watershed years indeed.<br />
Thanks for your contributions.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Hand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Hand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good thread on this- sorry I only just picked up now (but thats typical of us &#039;Higher ups&#039;). Got to say I agree with all of this (guess thats why I was keen to accept the challenge of working on the Connected Classrooms Program). Personally one of the greatest challenges encountered in the release of applications is the over engineering and extended development release time frames. The adoption of Rapid application Developement and committment to its principles ie beta release to market and grow from the market- including supports- is culturally the biggest challenge in terms of change management. As previously put by Darcy- it will take some momentum to move teachers from their existing web 2 tools onto the DET offerings- we (thats ITD) need to be more responsive /receptive and understanding of the sophisticated practises already out there. The next few year will be a wateshed in terms of Central V locally open application adoption.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good thread on this- sorry I only just picked up now (but thats typical of us &#8216;Higher ups&#8217;). Got to say I agree with all of this (guess thats why I was keen to accept the challenge of working on the Connected Classrooms Program). Personally one of the greatest challenges encountered in the release of applications is the over engineering and extended development release time frames. The adoption of Rapid application Developement and committment to its principles ie beta release to market and grow from the market- including supports- is culturally the biggest challenge in terms of change management. As previously put by Darcy- it will take some momentum to move teachers from their existing web 2 tools onto the DET offerings- we (thats ITD) need to be more responsive /receptive and understanding of the sophisticated practises already out there. The next few year will be a wateshed in terms of Central V locally open application adoption.</p>
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		<title>By: Darcy Moore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darcy Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really want to see the SEDs, RDs, and higher up the chain connected in this way too. I suggest it, in written and verbal form during my presentations. 

Very few leaders, in any commercial or public enterprise are using these tools or have this attitude atm. I really think that Obama&#039;s presidency will help publicise the effectiveness of these concepts to the largest possible audience.

Want to run &#039;a book&#039; on how long before the tools are available?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really want to see the SEDs, RDs, and higher up the chain connected in this way too. I suggest it, in written and verbal form during my presentations. </p>
<p>Very few leaders, in any commercial or public enterprise are using these tools or have this attitude atm. I really think that Obama&#8217;s presidency will help publicise the effectiveness of these concepts to the largest possible audience.</p>
<p>Want to run &#8216;a book&#8217; on how long before the tools are available?</p>
<p>Off to work&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mr S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 14:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darcy
As always I sincerely hope our circuitous echo chamber may at some stage actually provoke engagement by DET NSW higher ups. More power to presentations like yours at Region and Bridge St. Top stuff. 

However, there is only so many times our senior DET leaders can be spoon fed &quot;band 1 web2.0 tool days&quot; before they do something about walking the walk and engaging with real world connected learning of their own. 

DET higher ups learning for life &amp; digital empowering starts when they are prepared to let go of their ancient control or hierachy mindsets &quot;I&#039;m the teacher at the &quot;top&quot; (leader) I must get it right all the time.&quot; 

They&#039;ve all been reared on this and are successful products of it. Who cares if kids are more technically proficient? Leaders are still the ones who must lead connected learning by deep metacognition and engaging with it themselves.

If Rees and Rudd (well their apparachiks anyway!and now B.O.S. I note) are tweeting why can&#039;t Coutts Trotter and Wilson and all RD &amp; SEDs be connected (smart?) enough to engage with professional twitter accounts at least. It sure &#039;aint rocket science.

I guess it reflects their unbased fears/ignorance of what open fluid digital networks ala Shirky really mean. Here comes everyone alright. 

I just wonder who&#039;ll be left in the digital wake, bobbing around flotsam style, for there will be laggards, losers and lost opportunity and I don&#039;t want any of those to be DET NSW. 

But I&#039;m not too inspired yet by what I&#039;ve seen or heard (or NOT heard in web2.0 spheres!) from DET higher up land. 

World systems are racing ahead and their leaders are teaching me more than my own. I&#039;d kinda like mine to be a 21st century learning role model as well so I could brag to others about how FAB they are with proficient web2.0 engagement. Nup, sorry, can&#039;t do that, yet.

I feel supported and valued by my immediate school executive in what I am trying to show our staff but I wonder what other &quot;higher ups&quot; are doing to walk the walk? Not much it seems, sad indeed.

Thanks for the echo Darcy, they have to do more. I am brewing another possible &quot;web2.0 leader engagement&quot; approach, more later.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darcy<br />
As always I sincerely hope our circuitous echo chamber may at some stage actually provoke engagement by DET NSW higher ups. More power to presentations like yours at Region and Bridge St. Top stuff. </p>
<p>However, there is only so many times our senior DET leaders can be spoon fed &#8220;band 1 web2.0 tool days&#8221; before they do something about walking the walk and engaging with real world connected learning of their own. </p>
<p>DET higher ups learning for life &#038; digital empowering starts when they are prepared to let go of their ancient control or hierachy mindsets &#8220;I&#8217;m the teacher at the &#8220;top&#8221; (leader) I must get it right all the time.&#8221; </p>
<p>They&#8217;ve all been reared on this and are successful products of it. Who cares if kids are more technically proficient? Leaders are still the ones who must lead connected learning by deep metacognition and engaging with it themselves.</p>
<p>If Rees and Rudd (well their apparachiks anyway!and now B.O.S. I note) are tweeting why can&#8217;t Coutts Trotter and Wilson and all RD &#038; SEDs be connected (smart?) enough to engage with professional twitter accounts at least. It sure &#8216;aint rocket science.</p>
<p>I guess it reflects their unbased fears/ignorance of what open fluid digital networks ala Shirky really mean. Here comes everyone alright. </p>
<p>I just wonder who&#8217;ll be left in the digital wake, bobbing around flotsam style, for there will be laggards, losers and lost opportunity and I don&#8217;t want any of those to be DET NSW. </p>
<p>But I&#8217;m not too inspired yet by what I&#8217;ve seen or heard (or NOT heard in web2.0 spheres!) from DET higher up land. </p>
<p>World systems are racing ahead and their leaders are teaching me more than my own. I&#8217;d kinda like mine to be a 21st century learning role model as well so I could brag to others about how FAB they are with proficient web2.0 engagement. Nup, sorry, can&#8217;t do that, yet.</p>
<p>I feel supported and valued by my immediate school executive in what I am trying to show our staff but I wonder what other &#8220;higher ups&#8221; are doing to walk the walk? Not much it seems, sad indeed.</p>
<p>Thanks for the echo Darcy, they have to do more. I am brewing another possible &#8220;web2.0 leader engagement&#8221; approach, more later.</p>
<p>.</p>
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		<title>By: Darcy Moore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darcy Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 23:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post, Tony.

The grassroots spread of these tools is so much more likely to have a longer term impact if &#039;leaders&#039; encourage their &#039;spread&#039;. It will be interesting to see what the take-up is like on DET 2.0 tools. I hope they are riotouosly successful but wonder about the efficacy of &#039;starting fresh&#039; when so many successful platforms exist for free already. I am not certain exactly which tools will be available but certainly am unlikely to duplicate what I already have operationg for my PLN.

In 2006, my classes were cutout of their blogs due to the SIBE changes and I was told &#039;shortly&#039; the DET blogging tool would be available. My school will be trialling this shortly, 3 years later. The lag is just laughable when other options exist.

I&#039;ll just repeat, &#039;if the leaders don&#039;t get it&#039; we are in trouble. I&#039;d like to be able to &#039;follow&#039; leaders of our system on Twitter (or elsewhere) and be privvy to more info about what is going on. That&#039;s really what I&#039;d like to see, without too much lag (along with some RSS feeds from DET sites).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post, Tony.</p>
<p>The grassroots spread of these tools is so much more likely to have a longer term impact if &#8216;leaders&#8217; encourage their &#8217;spread&#8217;. It will be interesting to see what the take-up is like on DET 2.0 tools. I hope they are riotouosly successful but wonder about the efficacy of &#8217;starting fresh&#8217; when so many successful platforms exist for free already. I am not certain exactly which tools will be available but certainly am unlikely to duplicate what I already have operationg for my PLN.</p>
<p>In 2006, my classes were cutout of their blogs due to the SIBE changes and I was told &#8217;shortly&#8217; the DET blogging tool would be available. My school will be trialling this shortly, 3 years later. The lag is just laughable when other options exist.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll just repeat, &#8216;if the leaders don&#8217;t get it&#8217; we are in trouble. I&#8217;d like to be able to &#8216;follow&#8217; leaders of our system on Twitter (or elsewhere) and be privvy to more info about what is going on. That&#8217;s really what I&#8217;d like to see, without too much lag (along with some RSS feeds from DET sites).</p>
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