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	<title>Comments on: You do &#8216;it&#8217; right but is it the right thing?</title>
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	<description>Reflections on Learning 70:20:10</description>
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		<title>By: Henry Jenkins on New Media and Implications for Learning and Teaching. &#124; Sliced Bread</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henry Jenkins on New Media and Implications for Learning and Teaching. &#124; Sliced Bread</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 01:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] validation of more diverse learning experiences (Is the HSC broken?) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 23:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo Tony!

It&#039;s so true that school spend so much of effort helping kids climb the ladder of success, without ever stopping to consider whether that ladder is in fact resting up against the right wall.

Thanks for a great, thought provoking post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo Tony!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s so true that school spend so much of effort helping kids climb the ladder of success, without ever stopping to consider whether that ladder is in fact resting up against the right wall.</p>
<p>Thanks for a great, thought provoking post.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Searl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Searl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 21:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug
Reform follows when teachers follow. Teachers currently follow what they are told is &quot;right&quot; but it is wrong and not learning for life, it is box ticking hoop jumping due to fear.

The profitable and easy high stakes testing industry is entrenched and politically powerful. That is ultimately why brave leaders must confront them and change archaic assessment. McGaw&#039;s et al study could prove to be pivotol, especially for early adopters who may well be the newly educated emerging nations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug<br />
Reform follows when teachers follow. Teachers currently follow what they are told is &#8220;right&#8221; but it is wrong and not learning for life, it is box ticking hoop jumping due to fear.</p>
<p>The profitable and easy high stakes testing industry is entrenched and politically powerful. That is ultimately why brave leaders must confront them and change archaic assessment. McGaw&#8217;s et al study could prove to be pivotol, especially for early adopters who may well be the newly educated emerging nations.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Belshaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Belshaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 12:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find myself agreeing with most of what you have to say, Tony, but not about Siemens and Dewey. I think what they have to say &lt;em&gt;directly&lt;/em&gt; informs - Siemens especially - how education needs to be different in the 21st century!

I&#039;m realising more and more how key assessment is to educational change. Change the way that we test students - and report that testing - and the system will have to change as a result. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find myself agreeing with most of what you have to say, Tony, but not about Siemens and Dewey. I think what they have to say <em>directly</em> informs &#8211; Siemens especially &#8211; how education needs to be different in the 21st century!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m realising more and more how key assessment is to educational change. Change the way that we test students &#8211; and report that testing &#8211; and the system will have to change as a result. <img src='http://tsearl.edublogs.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tony Searl</title>
		<link>http://tsearl.edublogs.org/2009/01/31/you-do-it-right-but-is-it-the-right-thing/comment-page-1/#comment-194</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Searl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 01:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Troy
Hearing you loudly re our identical welcome back PD messages. 

I was not at all suprised, but I did note a distinct difference creeping in between the emphasis placed on high stakes testing feedback (&quot;it1.0&quot;) by our 3 campus Principals. 

Some &quot;chant the mantra&quot; ad nauseum, others are wise enough to acknowledge it as a small part of learning but then move on. Still pointless as PD though. 
 
Searchable eportfolios make sense don&#039;t they?, for both the mandated auditing snapshot the state needs and authentic assessment for learning. It has potential to satisfy multiple assessment needs and one I rcekon McGaw should be looking at 2009 to 2011.

Mr Lasic
Welcome back from exile, your self imposed silence! Liked that.
Yes I am really wracking my feeble brain on how I can wrangle a far far western trip in 2009.
Sorry for my ramble but I will aim to cull to single idea posts. My brain is not wired that way so it will be a challenge. 
As always you are succinct, always welcome, (always thirsty?) 
Look forward to more errudite contributions and yours in 2009! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Troy<br />
Hearing you loudly re our identical welcome back PD messages. </p>
<p>I was not at all suprised, but I did note a distinct difference creeping in between the emphasis placed on high stakes testing feedback (&#8221;it1.0&#8243;) by our 3 campus Principals. </p>
<p>Some &#8220;chant the mantra&#8221; ad nauseum, others are wise enough to acknowledge it as a small part of learning but then move on. Still pointless as PD though. </p>
<p>Searchable eportfolios make sense don&#8217;t they?, for both the mandated auditing snapshot the state needs and authentic assessment for learning. It has potential to satisfy multiple assessment needs and one I rcekon McGaw should be looking at 2009 to 2011.</p>
<p>Mr Lasic<br />
Welcome back from exile, your self imposed silence! Liked that.<br />
Yes I am really wracking my feeble brain on how I can wrangle a far far western trip in 2009.<br />
Sorry for my ramble but I will aim to cull to single idea posts. My brain is not wired that way so it will be a challenge.<br />
As always you are succinct, always welcome, (always thirsty?)<br />
Look forward to more errudite contributions and yours in 2009! <img src='http://tsearl.edublogs.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Troy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Troy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 21:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;...I was stimulus...&#039; (was meant to be &#039;I wanted stimulus...&#039;, I blame it on the weather) Cheers...

 &#039;Uni entry is based on online portfolio of published and critically commented work, participation, created social &amp; professional networks etc instead of Y12 exam scores and school marks.&#039; Yes yes yes...This does happen in some form in some primary schools, we have the scope to do this in at least 7, 8, 9 and 10...yet we still dabble in formal HSC style assessment, in some ways as preparation for those final years. Personalised Learning Plans and Portfolios speak louder than a single external multiple choice and cloze passaged and one little writing task filled exam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;&#8230;I was stimulus&#8230;&#8217; (was meant to be &#8216;I wanted stimulus&#8230;&#8217;, I blame it on the weather) Cheers&#8230;</p>
<p> &#8216;Uni entry is based on online portfolio of published and critically commented work, participation, created social &amp; professional networks etc instead of Y12 exam scores and school marks.&#8217; Yes yes yes&#8230;This does happen in some form in some primary schools, we have the scope to do this in at least 7, 8, 9 and 10&#8230;yet we still dabble in formal HSC style assessment, in some ways as preparation for those final years. Personalised Learning Plans and Portfolios speak louder than a single external multiple choice and cloze passaged and one little writing task filled exam.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomaz Lasic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tomaz Lasic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 12:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh, what a post! This can only be chewed through over a beer one afternoon - what do you think.

Love the gist of it (if I am correct), reminding of that corny yet in so many way sticky &#039;trusim&#039; about minds and parachutes working best when open. 

The quasi-science of schooling (scores, standards, cutoffs, ranks, benchmarks) are a product of a larger project (ever read John Ralston Saul? If not - highly recommended) which the new ways of learning, thinking, sharing could so beautifully white-ant. 

Imagine this: Uni entry is based on online portfolio of published and critically commented work, participation, created social &amp; professional networks etc instead of Y12 exam scores and school marks. What do you think will happen? If nothing else, you and I and a few 2.0 dabblers around the traps (growing in number by the day!) will all of a sudden be bloody &#039;gurus&#039; in demand :-D   
Throw in &#039;performance pay&#039; and we could do some serious talking with DETs around the place. 

More importantly, kids will not be choked to death by the false meritocracy, particularly the &#039;great unwashed&#039; at schools like ours.  

Have a good school year. And even better education year!

Tomaz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh, what a post! This can only be chewed through over a beer one afternoon &#8211; what do you think.</p>
<p>Love the gist of it (if I am correct), reminding of that corny yet in so many way sticky &#8216;trusim&#8217; about minds and parachutes working best when open. </p>
<p>The quasi-science of schooling (scores, standards, cutoffs, ranks, benchmarks) are a product of a larger project (ever read John Ralston Saul? If not &#8211; highly recommended) which the new ways of learning, thinking, sharing could so beautifully white-ant. </p>
<p>Imagine this: Uni entry is based on online portfolio of published and critically commented work, participation, created social &amp; professional networks etc instead of Y12 exam scores and school marks. What do you think will happen? If nothing else, you and I and a few 2.0 dabblers around the traps (growing in number by the day!) will all of a sudden be bloody &#8216;gurus&#8217; in demand <img src='http://tsearl.edublogs.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Throw in &#8216;performance pay&#8217; and we could do some serious talking with DETs around the place. </p>
<p>More importantly, kids will not be choked to death by the false meritocracy, particularly the &#8216;great unwashed&#8217; at schools like ours.  </p>
<p>Have a good school year. And even better education year!</p>
<p>Tomaz</p>
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		<title>By: Troy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Troy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 08:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear clapping. Does that mean someone is listening.

The opening to my first SDD at my new school started with: let&#039;s keep doing the same thing.

Ouch. I was stimulus, I wanted to be inspired and challenged and provoked. Like I am by this post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear clapping. Does that mean someone is listening.</p>
<p>The opening to my first SDD at my new school started with: let&#8217;s keep doing the same thing.</p>
<p>Ouch. I was stimulus, I wanted to be inspired and challenged and provoked. Like I am by this post.</p>
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